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Liddle Inbetweener

Liddle Inbetweener

This outline is still a down the line design but can adapt to a variety of beach and reef breaks. It has the same trim speed in a straight line as the very full outlined point break design but with a shorter turning radius. The wide point is moved back and more curve is added to the plan shape to free up the outline making direction changes and turning back more accessible.

It is easier to ride in many conditions and can be ridden as a single fin ( usually with a larger center fin ) or with a smaller single fin and the side runners and a smaller center fin.

This design is ideal for intiating oneself into the concept and idea of the smooth planing modified displacement hull design. It is versatile and there is an easier transition from the flat bottom with “V”, banana rocker, curvy outline, pivot, squirt and run concept of surfboard design.

The weight / length chart is a general suggestion depending on what length of board you are used to. Individuals are just that and may prefer longer and shorter versions of the same design ever though they be of the same height and weight.

Main thing is that you should be able to just launch the board, stand in trim position and the board should plane out at trim speed without any added impetus or gyrations on your part. That is the beauty of the design.

The smaller the board the more wave energy it takes to make it plane out. If you ride weaker waves you might want to go with a longer version to make planing efficient.

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Liddle Hawaiikine Planshape

Liddle Hawaiikine Planshape

To adapt to Hawaiian wave conditions and still ride conceptually the same kind of boards with the same kind of feeling I had to make some design adjustments. By Hawaiian waves I don’t mean large Hawaiian waves but rather small Hawaiian waves. Waves from knee high to 3-5 feet overhead. I attempted to ride my previous 7′ x 22″ California board on a moderate day of overhead Hawaiian surf and the board hydroplaned out of control.

To accommodate the increased wave power I had to make the California designs less efficient. I made the outlines narrower and added more curve. I added length for paddling ability, nose rocker for wind and later takeoffs and added volume for more buoyancy and paddling ability.

The designs changes adapted the “modifired hull” concept to the waves I now ride and have been for the past fourteen years. I found by adding an inch or inch and a half of width to the overall width throughout the outline that this design worked fine in similar waves height in California.

In the widths recommended for Hawaii below the board is well suited for most small wave conditions with a preference but not limited to front side surfing. In the wider configurations is a great design to ride larger and more powerful mainland waves up to 3 or 4 feet overhead.

For small weak waves the longer lengths will trim along easily and yet be adaptable to larger surf where maneuvering is not a major concern. I have a 7’10″ that I use in larger waves and in very small waves where a long board would work. I weigh 155 lbs and use a 7’8″ @ 21″ wide in Hawaiian surf from knee high to 3-4 feet overhead

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Liddle California Point Breaker

Liddle California Point Breaker

This outline is at one end of the design spectrum . It is designed for forward of center trim speed and down the line point break surfing. Ideally ridden from the center and ahead of center to initiate long radius turns and acceleration out of the turns .

This is not an easy board to ride for most because the natural tendency of most surfers to pivot off of their back foot produces poor results: short non-accelerating turns and possible spin outs by putting too much pressure on the tail section rails and not at the wide point or ahead of center.

Long turns are ideally initiated by turning forward on the board, leaning in the direction of the turn, pushing the leading rail edge into the water with both feet, banking the board over and pushing it through the turn. It is a very dynamic, accelerating and visually beautiful way of turning that must be done with mind, purpose and intent. It feel’s unbelieveable.

The design is very difficult to ride backside because a long radius turn must be done from the center or ahead of center. A difficult approach with one’s back to the wave and the natural tendency to pivot off the back foot for most backsiders. This same aspect makes turning back from a forhand turn more difficult also but a thing of skil and beauty if accomplished cleanly. My friend Steve Krajewski was a master of this type of turn back…..beautiful to watch.

The rounder tailed version seems to be the more committed down the line version and is more difficult to turn back. The rounded square tail is straighter through the end of the tail curve and is easier to turn back. I will always recommend the rounded square tail version as shown for those who are willing to give style of board a go. The last version I rode in California was 7′ with the rounded square tail . I ran a single fin with two side runners and found it too be the most versatile version of this very committed design that I had ridden to date. I weigh 155 lbs.

Because the outline is so straight there is more rail to deal with at all times. Each inch of two of length has more effect than on a curvier outline. Increments of two or three inches create very different and “larger” surfboards. A 7’6″ is a lot of surfboard in this outline compared to a 7’6″ in the “inbetweener”. A 7’6″ in the racier, hawaiian-style plan shape would seem small in comparison.

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Liddle MP3

Liddle MP3

I have had many requests for shorter versions of the other outlines to accommodate those surfers who are used to the smaller, narrower, thinner modern tri fin surfboard. This is an outline from the past and I have now made them down to 6’4″ lengths. I rode fuller outlines down to 6’2″ and for my 150 lb weight found that they did not plane along without constant effort much like the smaller curved outline modern tri fins of today. This was not my style so I keep adding length till they planed out easily in the small, weak point surf that was available to me in Southern California. If you have the power as in reefier or beach break surf it will surely push one of these along and they will fit into that shape of wave more easily to get a similar feeling of the longer outlines. Just takes a bit more manueuvering or for surfers of smaller stature. Hope this fills a gap without getting to far removed from the concept and feel of the design.

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